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Editing Oct 19, 2026

Pietro Scalia on cutting a movie inside a whale

Kingdom of Dreams · EP 335 · Editing

Academy Award winning editor Pietro Scalia joined Kingdom of Dreams to talk about cutting Whalefall, Brian Duffield's survival thriller starring Austin Abrams, Josh Brolin, and Elisabeth Shue. How do you edit a movie that takes place inside a whale, tell so much of it with almost no dialogue, and still let the audience breathe?

Scalia describes a transition that bridges the imagined and the real: after an argument with his father, Jay jumps into cold water, and the swimming shots are designed to land in the same angle and position as his body later, inside the whale. Matching geometry and breath becomes the cut's logic.

He also talks about holding after the squid fight so the audience can recover with the character, and about lessons from Oliver Stone and Ridley Scott, including why JFK and Black Hawk Down remain among the hardest films he has cut.

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Original Kingdom of Dreams craft take based on our conversation with editor Pietro Scalia (EP 335).