Episode 112 · May 30, 2024 · 30 min
'Furiosa, A Mad Max Saga', Film Review, Jawad Mir & Ethan
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**Uncovering the Truth: Furiosa's Visual Effects & Story**
In this deep dive, Jawad and Ethan unravel the magic behind "Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga," exploring its breathtaking visual effects and complex storytelling. Despite mixed feelings about the pacing and character development, the duo appreciates the film's stunning visuals and standout performances, particularly Chris Hemsworth and the actresses portraying Furiosa and her mother.
Delve into their unique perspectives on the film's world-building, the use of CGI to blend Anya Taylor-Joy's features with a younger actress, and the challenges of shooting in harsh desert conditions. They also address the film's underwhelming box office performance and discuss the future of the Mad Max franchise.
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0:00Jawad MirI couldn't believe 35 minutes of previews, and…
0:03Ethan35 minutes?
0:05Jawad MirI don't know if that was the reason that I didn't…... Enjoy it as much.
0:08EthanSet it on the wrong foot.
0:10Jawad MirBecause the movie itself is two and a half hours.
0:12EthanIf Dementus w… didn't have any... Where did he have power in this world before he kind of challenged Immor… Immortan Joe? So that was confusing to me.
0:21Jawad MirI don't know the timeframe, but I'm willing to bet a good half an hour you don't know who… where she is or wh… it just kind of became about the world.
0:29EthanAnd I'm sure he relied on the fact that people already knew her character g… coming…
0:33Jawad MirYeah, maybe
0:34Ethan... From Fury Road. That maybe he felt he didn't have to do a lot of the legwork of getting people invested.
0:40Jawad MirAnd I wouldn't lie, I did pass out once…... During the movie.
0:45EthanI was close near the end.
0:46Jawad MirYeah. I saw Furiosa a few days ago, and…
0:59EthanNice
0:59Jawad Mir... Thought we should chat. What did you think of it?
1:03EthanI liked it a lot. I really enjoyed it. I had a lot of fun. I mean, I w… I was gonna... I would need a caveat. I… It was my birthday when I saw it, so…
1:13Jawad MirOkay
1:13Ethan... I was in a good mood. But... And I also haven't seen Fury Road. That was the other thing I wanted to stress. Because I've seen parts of it, and I was gonna watch it before I saw Furiosa. Then I read some people who had seen it said, "If you haven't seen Fury Road, maybe watch it after. You might enjoy it more." So then I… and TIFF is showing it in the next week.
1:39Jawad MirRight.
1:39EthanI got tickets, so I was like, "It's a sign. I'll hold off." But yeah, I enjoyed it.
1:45Jawad MirThat's good. Yeah, I haven't seen Fury Road either.
1:48EthanOkay. Great.
1:49Jawad MirYeah, I've seen the original I think. I would like to get... I know there's definitely two if not three Mad Max films with Mel Gibson.
1:58EthanYeah. I think that sounds great.
1:58Jawad MirRight?
1:59EthanYeah.
1:59Jawad MirAnd, yeah, I mean, George Miller, he's been doing this for a good 40-plus years. And, I have seen the trailer of Fury Road, and I mean, I was really intrigued by it. Furiosa, probably not so much, and I honestly, I... When I say not so much, I meant the trailer.
2:21EthanYeah.
2:21Jawad MirI don't even know…
2:23EthanI'm with you there
2:23Jawad Mir... I didn't even know that they were connected.
2:26EthanOh, really?
2:27Jawad MirYeah, until I saw a trailer where she's shaved and the face is all painted, and I'm like, "Oh…
2:34EthanYeah
2:35Jawad Mir... Is that the same character?" but yeah, no, it... I wish I could say, and I did like the movie, but I don't know if it was... I was in, Orlando and we went to see it, and it was…
2:49EthanOh, fun
2:49Jawad Mir... I couldn't believe 35 minutes of previews, and…
2:54Ethan35 minutes?
2:56Jawad Mir35 minutes of previews. That really... I don't know if that was the reason that I didn't…... Enjoy it as much.
3:02EthanSet it on the wrong foot.
3:04Jawad MirBecause the movie itself is two and a half hours.
3:07EthanLong.
3:08Jawad MirRight?
3:09EthanYeah.
3:09Jawad MirSo having 35 minutes of, previews wasn't helpful. But visually, I mean, it was amazing. But I think one thing that I walked away with the best was w… that I liked a lot, Chris Hemsworth's performance. I think…
3:22Jawad Mir... He nailed it. And he thoroughly enjoyed it.
3:27EthanYeah
3:27Jawad Mir... And also the woman who played, well, the younger ver… the youngest version of Furiosa…
3:34EthanYeah
3:34Jawad Mir... And the woman that played her mom.
3:37EthanYes.
3:37Jawad MirI thought those three stood out for me. What about you?
3:40EthanI also... It took me a minute to decide if I liked Ch… Chris Hemsworth, but I landed on that I did. And I really thought the actress who played young Furiosa was phenomenal. I was s… I was taken aback for so long because they looked so similar that I was like, "Are they have to be related?" And then I read later online that it was CG, that they mixed their faces together, her, the young actress and Anya Taylor-Joy's faces together, and I was like, "Okay, that makes a lot of sense," because Anya Taylor-Joy has such a unique look that I was like, for a child actress to have such a similar one, I was like, they either are related or this isn't as special effects, and it was special effects. But I really liked her. And also the mom, who was recently in, Anyone But You, with Sydney Sweeney.
4:34Jawad MirOkay.
4:34EthanThat was her, first role. So I was like, "Oh, there she is again." but yeah, she was great, and that whole sequence in the beginning I loved
4:43Jawad MirYeah
4:43Ethan... With her.
4:45Jawad MirYeah, I am actually intrigued, but probably not so much with this idea of using visual effects to make, you know, the younger and older version look. It... I think it's fascinating, but at the same time, it kind of just... The fact that you just mentioned, I'm like, "Oh." You know, that I think that takes away…
5:05EthanTook away from the performance a little?
5:06Jawad MirYeah. A lot I think.
5:08EthanFair.
5:08Jawad MirBecause that's not, that's not fair to the actor or the actress, because you're literally changing their expressions, and that doesn't really reflect on their talent, good or bad, either way.
5:19EthanYeah. Yeah, I mean…
5:21Jawad MirYou know?
5:22EthanI mean, but take it from... I mean, I guess if you're looking at, like, Planet of the Apes, they're putting it on top of. But I don't know how…
5:29Jawad MirYeah
5:29Ethan... Much they're changing her facial performance with Anya Taylor-Joy or more just mixing some of the features to make her…
5:39Jawad MirThat's a good point
5:40Ethan... Look more like her. Like, just adding…
5:43Jawad MirYeah
5:43Ethan... Lips a little, the eyes, just 'cause to make her look. To me, the only reason it bothered me a little was because later on when Anya Taylor-Joy shows up and they, the Immortan Joe's crew doesn't recognize her or anyone doesn't recognize her… As the little girl who escaped earlier on in the film, I was taken aback. I was like, "How did you... That's Anya Taylor-Joy. How did, how are you not connecting the dots?"
6:13Jawad MirYeah.
6:13EthanThat took me out of it a little. I was like, you're just gonna stare right at her and not wonder if that's the character from earlier? But anyways, that's a nitpick.
6:23Jawad MirYeah, no, I think you have a valid point about the Planet of the Apes, motion capture technology. But the flip side of that is people, I think, nowadays know that's motion capture technology.
6:34EthanYes.
6:34Jawad MirSo they know that it's a human being replaced by an ape completely, like from top to bottom.
6:41EthanRight.
6:42Jawad MirBut in this, in this case, I bet you 90% of the people didn't even know…
6:47EthanYeah
6:47Jawad Mir... Don't even know it, right?
6:49EthanYeah.
6:49Jawad MirBut having said that, one thing that I kind of found was, again, these are, could be... Overall, I really enjoyed the film as a form of entertainment. I think it had some interesting scenes and some great performances. But one thing that kind of took me away from the character's journey was, especially in the first, few acts, right? I think there were five…
7:17EthanRight
7:17Jawad Mir... Acts or five chapters.
7:18EthanYeah, the chapters didn't really work for me.
7:20Jawad MirYeah. Yeah, they didn't work for me either.
7:22EthanYeah.
7:23Jawad MirAnd, you kind of lose track of Furiosa. Like, she's not even in several scenes in the first couple of chapters, and you're like, "Okay, what…"
7:33EthanShe's not in the first hour.
7:35Jawad MirWell…
7:35EthanYou mean young Furia, you mean in general.
7:37Jawad MirYoung Furiosa. Like, you see her in the beginning…
7:39EthanYeah
7:40Jawad Mir... And then, I don't know the timeframe, but I'm willing to bet a good half an hour you don't know where she is or what. It just kind of became about the world.
7:49EthanYeah.
7:49Jawad MirBut you kind of, maybe that's the reason I feel that I wasn't really involved, because that character…
7:55EthanYeah
7:55Jawad Mir... That you're supposed to be relating to or you're seeing the world through her eyes… ... Wasn't there for a good chunk.
8:02EthanThat's true. I see that. I think I was lost in the world-building a little, a little bit more. I enjoyed it. I love… I liked seeing. It felt epic in that way, where it kind of wasn't just following one... It felt like you had different characters. You had some different storylines going on.
8:24Jawad MirYeah.
8:24EthanLike, I think like my favorite blockbusters and epics and, you know, they've got multiple things happening. And so I did enjoy that aspect of it, especially since I realized we were gonna be with a child version of the character for so long, which also maybe didn't help what you were kind of stressing.
8:45EthanIt's hard to kind of get into the perspective of a character when it's a child for an hour, when you know that's not really the character you're gonna be following. And so that, I, kind of bothered me a little bit. But I enjoyed learning about this world, and maybe it's 'cause I didn't know much about it going into it. But, I was more confused about Dementus and…
9:14Ethan... I'm still trying to get his name. Immortan Joe. Like, and what the different…
9:20Jawad MirThe…
9:20Ethan... Territories…
9:20Jawad MirThe guy with the mask?
9:21EthanThe guy with the mask.
9:22Jawad MirOkay.
9:23EthanWhat the different territories, like they…
9:27Jawad MirI agree
9:27Ethan... You know what I mean? What, like, where, if Dementus w… didn't have any, where did he have power in this world before he kind of challenged Immort… Immortan Joe? So that was confusing to me. But I did enjoy kind of setting up that world and that more complex, world-building. But I think probably George Miller got a little lost in that and distracted from making it actually Furiosa and not the Mad Max part of it.
9:57Jawad MirYeah. I agree, and I think the confusion was there for me as well, just as to what is the objective of these characters…
10:07EthanYeah
10:07Jawad Mir... And these different, like, you know, the wasteland, the gas, was it the gas factory?
10:13EthanTown.
10:13Jawad MirGas Town.
10:14EthanYeah.
10:14Jawad MirAnd all those places. And I wouldn't lie, I did pass out once during the movie.
10:19EthanI was close near the end.
10:21Jawad MirYeah. And I think I missed a major action sequence. I, but yeah, it was…
10:28EthanOh
10:29Jawad Mir... I think two and a half hours long.
10:30EthanIt wasn't the convoy, right?
10:33Jawad MirIt was, it was not…
10:34Ethan'Cause that was a great…
10:35Jawad MirNo, there was one great sequence that I did see that was…
10:39EthanIn the middle with
10:40Jawad MirYeah
10:40Ethan... With the priest.
10:42Jawad MirYeah. But in the very final, the final, just before the finale, there was something that certainly happened. I missed parts of it. I mean, I remember in… because it was just, it, I wasn't connected to the character and I felt that George Miller tried really... And look, it's really hard. It's not fair to criticize, because I'll get to the, other part of the film. It was not an easy film to make from a production standpoint, right?
11:07EthanYeah, from what I've read.
11:08Jawad MirBut yeah, I mean, even looking at it, like, but going, before I go to that, it's just, it was just that I wasn't invested into the character, and I think he, George Miller tried really hard for her, for the character to be very serious and non-verbal, which kind of gives you more interesting points about the character. But again…
11:28EthanYeah
11:29Jawad Mir... Having Furiosa not there for a good chunk, I think it did more harm than it did good, and I think that's why people are kind of divided on it.
11:39EthanThat's fair. And he, I'm sure he relied on the fact that people already knew her character g… coming…
11:44Jawad MirYeah, maybe
11:45Ethan... From Fury Road, that maybe he felt he didn't have to do a lot of the legwork of getting people invested because they've seen her. But for people like you and me who haven't seen her in that movie, we don't have that familiarity, and so it was kind of starting from scratch from us. But I can see him kind of forgetting about us and focusing on the people who've seen it.
12:08Jawad MirYeah.
12:08EthanBut I did I was I'm trying to think about how I felt about being invested in her character. I was definitely invested. But again, now I just I don't know if that was because of what I know about the character already and Charlize Theron's character, because I've seen parts of Fury Road or if I genuinely felt invested in this version, I'd have to see it again. That's interesting.
12:32Jawad MirYeah. I mean, going to the production itself, I haven't seen the making of but…
12:38EthanYeah
12:38Jawad Mir... I mean, looking at the film, you know, obviously there are visual effects there, but majority of the film looks pretty authentic. I know Fury Road was very authentic from what I had read. I haven't seen it. But to shoot in water and desert is not an easy task. I…
12:58EthanYeah
12:58Jawad Mir... I actually spoke to, John Seale, who shot The English Patient.
13:05EthanRight. Yes.
13:06Jawad MirI don't know if you have seen English Patient.
13:07EthanHaven't seen it, but I know it.
13:09Jawad MirOkay. Before your time.
13:13EthanA lot of, a lot of movies are. A lot of the best.
13:16Jawad MirYeah, it was, it was not an easy film to shoot in desert. Desert is, I mean, you know, sandstorms and, people get tired very quickly. The sun, the heat and everything.
13:28EthanYeah.
13:28Jawad MirAnd it's, it's… to be able to pull something like that off, I mean, The English Patient is the complete opposite. It's a very, you know, slow and calm movie.
13:38EthanDramatic.
13:38Jawad MirThis is completely opposite.
13:40EthanYeah
13:41Jawad Mir... You know, it's non-stop. And to be able to pull those things off, in the middle of nowhere… ... I mean, kudos to the team that did it because it's not easy, even if… 'cause nobody turn… nobody wants to make a bad movie, right? Like…
13:54EthanYeah
13:54Jawad Mir... Sometimes good movies don't end up getting a hit. But remarkable work in terms of production for sure.
14:01EthanYeah. I think may I… it got me thinking. I was, I've heard the, I haven't seen a lot of behind the scenes about this one, but I've read about Dune Part Two and a lot of the cast… ... Talking about how draining and exhausting shooting those scene, like that half that, majority of that movie is the desert. And…
14:20Jawad MirYeah
14:20Ethan... They were just talking about how draining it was. And I've heard Anya Taylor-Joy talk about how exhausting this shoot was, just filming in those conditions. So it's, it's a lot. I wonder if audiences are desert out and that's why they're not coming to see Furiosa as much, 'cause it's…
14:40Jawad MirWell…
14:40EthanIt, yeah.
14:42Jawad MirWell, that raises an interesting question, right? Like I was reading, so one of the things that Mad Max has done, again, referencing back to, one of the editors of, Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, I think it's called.
14:56EthanYes.
14:57Jawad MirRichard Francis, Bruce, he's one of the editors. He's edited like Shawshank Redemption, The Rock…
15:03EthanOh, wow
15:03Jawad Mir... All those wonderful films. And I was talking to him about Mad Max Thunderdome, and we, you know, I mentioned to him that it just seems like to me that the... Have you seen Hook with Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman?
15:19EthanYes. Yes.
15:20Jawad MirOkay. So, you know, similar outfits, similar kind of world and…
15:23EthanYeah
15:23Jawad Mir... And he raised a very good point. He said that, and I think he's absolutely spot on, that Mad Max set up a precedent for like rugged and destroyed vehicles and worlds and…
15:35EthanFor sure
15:35Jawad Mir... Movies to come. I mean, it definitely started a trend for sure.
15:39EthanFor sure. Yeah. It's, there're even a, they're even a, I think, I haven't seen it yet, obviously it's months out, but I think they're doing even like Mad Maf… Ma… Mad Max references in the new Deadpool movie. It looks like they're gonna do like a Mad Max style like race sequence.
15:57Jawad MirOh, I see.
15:57EthanAnd so you can, you can with all these like different vehicles and so you can see it. It's had influence in many different, they, many different movies and shows have referenced that kind of…
16:09Jawad MirRight
16:09Ethan... Like different, souped up vehicles racing in the desert. Fast and…
16:15Jawad MirYeah. Yeah.
16:16EthanIt's obviously not the desert, but...
16:18Jawad MirWell, actually, you know what? You mentioned Fast and Furious. I can see that.
16:22EthanYeah.
16:22Jawad MirAt a, not intentionally, maybe just subconsciously, you know, like…
16:26EthanYeah, for sure
16:27Jawad Mir... You grow up with movies like this. But Mad Max, this Memorial Day, like Memorial Day weekend is supposed to be like a huge deal, right? Like it's one of the biggest weekends. It launches the summer, schedule and summer box office and everything.
16:41EthanYeah.
16:41Jawad MirAnd two movies opened up, which I, well, the other one I don't even know about, Garfield. I didn't even know there was a Garfield movie coming out. I mean, that was…
16:51EthanGarfield
16:52Jawad Mir... That was, that was shock to me. I saw, I saw a photo of Chris Hemsworth and Garfield. I'm like, "Did Chris Hemsworth voice Garf… like, what is this?"
17:00EthanNo.
17:00Jawad MirAnd then I realized it was Furiosa and
17:03EthanWrong Chris
17:03Jawad Mir... Garfield. Yeah. But yeah, what, I mean, five-day weekend for Furiosa being thirty-one million, I think it was.
17:12EthanYeah.
17:12Jawad MirWhich is like, which is extremely low even for a regular three-day weekend.
17:17EthanYeah.
17:17Jawad MirWhy do you think that is?
17:20EthanA few reasons. One I read online, from a YouTuber I watch often. She mentioned that it could be like Memorial Day weekend is a big family day weekend, or a big family weekend. And it's… ... At least in the States it's I think P… fourteen A or eighteen A here, but in the States it's R. And so an R-rated movie on fan… on Memorial Day weekend when a lot of kids are wanting to go see movies with their families isn't necessarily gonna draw as many viewers. Like R-rated movies are always gonna draw less of an audience than a PG movie. I think that's a big deal. I think people are also kind of sick of, prequels, sequels. I think we're getting to that stage where it's like…
18:14Jawad MirFranchise remakes and all that
18:15Ethan... Franchise. I think they just, if you look at what people were interested in earlier on in the year, it didn't do... No movie has done gangbusters this year. Not one movie. But Civil War did well. It was original. People were interested.
18:29EthanIt was…... Topical. Dune Part Two, while a franchise, a very old franchise that hasn't been remade 1,000 times, granted, like Mad Max hasn't either, but I think it's, did… doesn't have that same hype around it, and I think Dune Part Two coming out a month and a half ago, two months ago, did undercut it a little bit. I think there are many reasons like that just kind of combined, and I think quality, the trailers, like you mentioned, just didn't look that great for Furiosa. I don't think there's one person I could show a trailer of Furiosa to that isn't in… involved in movies or likes to go see every movie that would be like, "I'm going to see that opening weekend…
19:15Jawad MirYeah
19:15Ethan... Because the trailer looks phenomenal." I think it looked iffy from the…
19:20Jawad MirYeah
19:20Ethan... Trailers.
19:22Jawad MirNo, I, it…
19:23EthanYeah
19:23Jawad Mir... That's true, and I think what really would... The fact that you said that it's R-rated over there, it's, 14 accompanied here, if that is a factor, then the film should not drop, have a huge drop in the second weekend, right? Like, it should just…
19:40EthanNo
19:40Jawad Mir... Have like a third, 30% or 25% or 33% drop.
19:44EthanYeah.
19:44Jawad MirAnd if it drops below 50%, then yeah, definitely. I think it, I think it was more than that. I think it was a combination of things, and I do also…
19:53EthanYeah
19:53Jawad Mir... Think one thing you mentioned was Dune Two that came out, what, a month ago?
19:58EthanMarch, beginning of March. So like…
20:01Jawad MirAside from franchisee, the R rating, and all that, I do also think now that you mention it, I think people probably saw Dune Two and then they saw a Furiosa trailer, like another desert movie.
20:15EthanYeah.
20:15Jawad MirReally, do I need…
20:16EthanWe just did…
20:16Jawad MirDo I need to go there? Do I really need to go see a desert movie again?
20:20EthanYeah.
20:20Jawad MirI think that could be one main reason.
20:23EthanRight? I think so. I think if it was a few months later in the summer, it might have done slightly better. I don't know. It, we don't know.
20:32Jawad MirBut at the same time, I mean, no matter how similar a film is, if it's not that great, it's not that great. Like, if it's great, then no matter what, nothing can, you know, if it clicks with people, if it taps into that psyche…
20:45Jawad Mir... I just didn't, I, yeah, I just didn't feel connected to any cha… like, I didn't feel for anybody except…
20:50EthanYeah
20:50Jawad Mir... The opening sequence, the mother trying to save Furio… like, that was the…
20:54EthanYeah
20:54Jawad Mir... Part that was the best part in the entire film, in my view.
20:59EthanYeah. I mean, I felt, I agree, it definitely was my, that and the end, which I don't wanna give away the... I personally loved the final confrontation between her…
21:10Jawad MirYeah, that was pretty cool too, yeah
21:12Ethan... I thought it was cool. I thought it was different. I liked that it was scaled down and not some giant battle. We've had a million action sequences by that point. I liked that one-on-one confrontation, and then the payoff, there's, there's a running, thing with Furiosa and a seed she's given, and I thought the payoff…
21:33Jawad MirYeah
21:33Ethan... For that was fantastic and just not expected. It had, by that point, the amount of times it was brought up, I was like, "If they don't do something really cool with that seed, I'm gonna, it's over." And they delivered on that. So I…
21:47Jawad MirYeah
21:47Ethan... Appreciated that. And I guess I was, I think I was more emotionally invested in her character, I think, when she was being traded to Immortan Joe. I was inve… and I think I was really disturbed in her time in that, not that she was in it for long, with the wives of Immortan Joe. That part was in… a little intense, but I think I wasn't, I guess maybe just going in from it from the get-go, I was like, "I wanna see some action sequences. I wanna see some, like, epic trucks…
22:24Jawad MirYeah
22:24Ethan... And some cool visuals," and I think they kind of undersold me on the character when we went into it and they said, I think a week or two before they came out, saying Anya Taylor-Joy has 38 lines in the movie. And I was like, "Oh, okay." So…
22:40Jawad MirOh, really? I don't even…
22:41EthanYeah
22:42Jawad Mir... Now that makes, that makes sense because she barely speaks.
22:45EthanYeah. Yeah. That's, she has, like, no dialogue in the movie, and they prefaced it a couple weeks before, so I saw that. Went into it kind of expecting, "Okay, she's not gonna..." And I saw people talk about the first hour being kind of slower, and then when I realized Anya Taylor-Joy wasn't coming in for the first hour, I was like, "Okay, it's all clicking now."
23:04Jawad MirSee, I didn't even know any of those things, and I, when some… when a character has 38 lines in a movie… ... To me, that's, that's a character that you should be heavily invested into because they're not telling you what to think. They're making you feel…
23:20EthanYeah
23:20Jawad Mir... What you should think or shouldn't think. And I still didn't, right? So, but you know, I wonder what the future holds. I don't know if there's another movie that they're planning or they were planning, what's…
23:32EthanYeah
23:32Jawad Mir... Gonna happen.
23:33EthanFor her.
23:34Jawad MirYeah, like, because I think the budget for this one was 163 million.
23:39EthanThat was that way
23:39Jawad Mir... I think this is before marketing.
23:42EthanTwo fifty now
23:42Jawad Mir... So close to two, yeah. So we'll see how, I mean, I don't know if he has another... I don't even know how Fury Road ends, so…
23:51EthanYeah
23:51Jawad Mir... If there's a story after that or if there's a story, I wouldn't mind seeing how, Chris Hemsworth's character came to be where he is. I mean, that would be interesting, but that's not Mad Max, right?
24:03EthanThat's, yeah, that's where I'm like, I think I'm done with Furiosa. I think she's good. At least this…
24:08Jawad MirYeah
24:08Ethan... I would love to see Charlize Theron as Furiosa again, personally, like, if we got a sequel, but that's where I think, talking back to our other point, I think we're, I think we just need to take a break from these franchises. As fun as they are, I think, I think audiences…
24:24Jawad MirNo, I'm tired
24:24Ethan... Are start, are starting to speak that. It's like, unless it's something original like Barbie where it's taking a franchise and kind of doing something new with it, just doing a prequel or a sequel, it just isn't enough to draw people in anymore.
24:40Jawad MirYeah, no, I couldn't agree more. I mean, there's, there's so many sequels and, you know, spinoffs and franchise stuff coming, and, you know, I just saw the trailer. If you haven't, take a look at it. That looks, it looks quite interesting with, Brad Pitt and George Clooney.
24:55EthanOh, Wolf.
24:57Jawad MirW… Wolves.
24:58EthanYeah, Wolves.
24:58Jawad MirWolves. Wolves.
24:59EthanWolves.
24:59Jawad MirWith an S, not with a V-E-S. That looks good. I mean, there's a whole bunch of movies…
25:05EthanI…
25:05Jawad Mir... That I made a list of that I want to see and we wanna cover on the podcast. I mean…
25:11EthanYeah
25:11Jawad Mir... It's the…
25:12EthanLong…
25:13Jawad MirI know the…
25:13EthanOh, you mentioned that last time, the horror…
25:15Jawad MirInside Out 2
25:16Ethan... There's some good horror. Yeah.
25:17Jawad MirI wanna see Inside 2. There's a Netflix series coming up which will be quite interesting called Terminator Zero. So it's like an anime style of basically it's, it takes place between certain number of films. I don't know which ones.
25:30EthanOh, interesting.
25:31Jawad MirYeah. Quiet Place: Day One looks good.
25:36EthanOkay.
25:36Jawad MirI'm looking forward to the new Alien film because it's directed by the same guy who did Don't Breathe, which was…
25:41EthanYes
25:41Jawad Mir... An amazing film.
25:43EthanYeah.
25:43Jawad MirI haven't seen the second, Don't Breathe yet.
25:46EthanIt's okay. Just stick with the first one.
25:48Jawad MirYeah. And that Wild Robot, that looks really good. That's supposed to be really good.
25:54EthanYes, that is one of my most anticipated of the year. The animation looks beautiful.
25:58Jawad MirYeah, and then Beetlejuice 2, I just saw the trailer. That looks great. I mean, I saw it when I was 13, I'd like to guess.
26:08EthanYes. Beetle…
26:09Jawad MirAnd, you know…
26:10EthanYeah
26:10Jawad Mir... Loved that film.
26:12EthanYeah.
26:12Jawad MirAnd then, Joker 2, that would be really cool too, I think.
26:16EthanLooks really good. Very excited for that.
26:19Jawad MirYeah.
26:19EthanThere's a lot of…
26:19Jawad MirWhat about you?
26:21EthanI, even though I just took a dump on sequels and prequels, I am m… a Marvel guy, so I am excited for Deadpool & Wolverine either way. I'll be there Thursday night to see it. Inside Out 2, I've seen the first. I actually got to see the first 35 minutes of it. I already think…
26:41Jawad MirGreat
26:41Ethan... It's one of probably Pixar's... I didn't love Inside Out 1, but I saw the first, the…
26:48Jawad MirYeah
26:48Ethan... Like, the first 35 minutes, and sold on Inside Out 2.
26:52Jawad MirYeah.
26:52EthanAnd yeah, I think there's some good horror coming out this summer that looks original. There's a movie coming out with Nick… Nicholas Cage called Long Legs. That looks, really disturbing.
27:04Jawad MirI haven't seen that trailer right yet, but I've heard it's disturbing.
27:06EthanThey've released, like, throughout the past few months, they released, like, 20 second, like, teasers that were probably some of the scariest marketing I've ever seen. Then I saw recently they released, like, a two-minute trailer, but I don't wanna watch it 'cause I don't wanna know any more. And, trying to think.
27:26Jawad MirWell, there's the M. Night Shyamalan movie coming out with Josh, the Josh Hartnett.
27:31EthanYe… I don't know the actor in it off, but Trap, right? That's…
27:35Jawad MirYeah
27:35Ethan... In…
27:36Jawad MirYeah
27:36Ethan... Two.
27:36Jawad MirAnd then his daughter is making a movie, too.
27:39EthanYep. That comes out, I think, in a week, or in beginning of June. The Watchers.
27:46Jawad MirWho's The Watcher. Who's distributing that, The Watchers?
27:50EthanOh.
27:50Jawad MirDo you know?
27:50EthanJust wrote, just wrote it down.
27:53Jawad MirOh, it's fine. I'll p… I'll find out. I was just kinda curious.
27:59EthanWarner Brothers.
28:01Jawad MirWarner Brothers.
28:02EthanWarner Brothers.
28:03Jawad MirYeah, I would be interested in seeing that because that, the, I mean, Dakota Fanning is a great actress, and the trailer…
28:08EthanShe is
28:08Jawad Mir... Does look interesting.
28:10EthanYeah. I think the year is looking up. I hope, I hope people get back to the theaters. I don't think there's a big event movie like Barbenheimer that's gonna bring people back, but we'll see if Deadpool & Wolverine does it. I don't, I don't know. I'm not even confident in that.
28:27Jawad MirYeah.
28:28EthanAfter Marvel's recent performance.
28:31Jawad MirWell, I'm not a superhero fan at all, so I have no idea.
28:33EthanRight, I know.
28:34Jawad MirBut…
28:34EthanI remember that, actually.
28:35Jawad MirYou know, I'm, I'll probably see you at the Bad Boys screening. I don't know if you're going the same one on June 3rd.
28:43EthanI'm not. I actually have…
28:45Jawad MirOkay
28:45Ethan... Only seen one Bad Boys movie. I gotta catch up.
28:49Jawad MirYeah, it's, I'm not even looking forward to the Bad Boys movie. But I'm just gonna go see it. I loved the first one because it was…
28:56EthanYeah
28:56Jawad Mir... Very under budget. I mean, there are some crazy stories about how they made it and everything.
29:02EthanRight.
29:02Jawad MirAnd the second one I enjoyed. Third one I haven't seen. I…
29:06EthanThat was the one that came out, like, 2020, I think, right?
29:08Jawad MirThat's the one, exactly.
29:09EthanPeople like that one. I've been hearing great things about the new Bad Boys, though, so hopefully you enjoy it. People…
29:17Jawad MirYeah, I mean, I know. I just wanna see something. Oh, you know what I wanna see? Sorry, I'm kinda going off tangent here.
29:22EthanNo, I love it.
29:23Jawad MirWe're talking about meaningful films. There's, I think I may have said this to you before in the last podcast we did together. Tuesday. From A24.
29:35EthanIs that the Julia Louis-Dreyfus? Yes. I wanna see that.
29:38Jawad MirThat I can't wait to see. That I'm looking forward to.
29:42EthanYeah, me too. Did you see the one she did l… last year, You Hurt My Feelings?
29:48Jawad MirNo, I have to see it, but I…
29:49EthanThat's on Prime, and gr… a great movie, especially for any creative out there who makes work and shows it to people. It's really good and relatable, and, so I think that was also A24 or Elevation maybe. But…
30:03Jawad MirOkay. If it's A24…
30:04EthanSo…
30:04Jawad Mir... I'll watch it because…
30:05EthanYeah
30:05Jawad Mir... I love their stuff.
30:06EthanYeah.
30:07Jawad MirI love their stuff.
30:07EthanSo that's, that's a good one, too.
30:10Jawad MirAwesome, man.
30:11EthanYeah.
30:11Jawad MirAwesome. This has been great. Thank you so much.
30:13EthanThank you for having me.
